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grahn

67 Posts

Posted - 13 Sep 2008 :  15:26:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Has anyone got the template for a transom outboard mount. How does the genuine one fit? Do the really long bolts traverse the transom front to rear? That I'm guessing would make the bolts some 6" long. I would have thought you could glue a wooden plate to the transom rear sitting on the bottom hull lip and standing proud at the top to allow an outboard c clamp over thereby avoiding drilling the hull rear. Yes the glue would have to be good but it should work for the smallest of motors say 2-2.5 hp.

bubble

51 Posts

Posted - 15 Sep 2008 :  08:59:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi Neil

I had all these thoughts for a while ,

but I gave in and sent off for one of lasers finest,

because by the time you have bought marine ply [others will de-laminate] cut the complex wedges at the rear of the plate and drilled the holes, got the ss bolts etc, then varnished it etc etc you will have wasted a day, then it looks better priced,

but I do get fed up of it when its not used, ITS IN THE WAY :-(

hey,

went sailing for the WHOLE day yesterday -bliss :-)

regds neill cambridge
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grahn

67 Posts

Posted - 15 Sep 2008 :  19:57:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd like to fit some sort of engine to complete the last 200m against the wind/tide to our club,the waterway narrowing and there's no one around to get a tow. I got a tow off and 18ft boat with a 2.5hp engine so I think approaching 2hp would actually push a a stratos against the tide enough to get you home. An electric out board might work assuming you cound modify the C-clamp to extend over a Stratos transom. If only those torqeedo 801 motors were affordable. Glad you had a nice day on your boat. Amongst all the boats in Chichester harbour there was one noticeable having fun diving in the still airs. What boat was it? a stratos of course (ahoy CB540 I think) with a family having a great time messing around on the water.
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grahn

67 Posts

Posted - 04 Nov 2008 :  17:36:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I could bear the thought of drilling holes in my transom or spending money on the laser bracket so I bought a bit of hardwood and made a u shaped bracket that glues on to the transom. got an e-thrust 56lb electric motor of ebay and a leisure battery in a box that straps to the bracket and toestraps. Checked it out on a Topper Omega and the motor was powerful enough to move the similar weight/sized boat against a tide. Got some funny looks from sailors who couldn't figure out how we were moving becalmed when they weren't cause the motor makes no noise.
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bubble

51 Posts

Posted - 04 Nov 2008 :  19:50:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
well done

yes , once you have drilled you have holes forever!!!

good luck with your 'rig'

how much sailing have you done?, I have bought a dry suit and intend to brave the elements all this winter, inland of course, trouble is getting the 'crew ' worked up [woken up?]

never mind.

enjoy

another neill, cambridge.
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deswift

122 Posts

Posted - 04 Nov 2008 :  19:57:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As Neil (grahn) will tell you, down here on the English RiverArea, it's practically summer right now.! Shorts and Tee!.

We had a great race this Sunday and our 'Australian Summer Series' continues right up 'til Christmas.

D

Edited by - deswift on 04 Nov 2008 20:02:48
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neilgbj

147 Posts

Posted - 04 Nov 2008 :  22:07:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You must keep us posted on how the glue works....how big is the battery ?

I shall be braving the North Sea this winter......Stratos is a great boat in those short choppy waves ! We must keep the winter sailing stories coming !

Cheers

Neil
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grahn

67 Posts

Posted - 06 Nov 2008 :  17:32:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One benefit of the coming winter is the cruiser lift out which removed all those obstacles to us less competent sailors so now we get a stright run in our tidal creek. Though we neally came a cropper the other week in Hayling bay in a F5 with full reef. We heard the shouted expletives of a club racer as he nearly t-boned us port side. He maintains he should not have to alter course behind us cause he is racing. We were going to hold our course but tacked in response to the verbal. Then he complained because we nearly capsized on top of him.
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barleycon

United Kingdom
2 Posts

Posted - 09 Nov 2008 :  16:21:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
'..as he nearly t-boned us port side. He maintains he should not have to alter course behind us cause he is racing. We were going to hold our course...'
I think the racer made a mistake: a boat racing does not have right of way. Ususal rules apply. It's helpful to give way to a racer but not a requirement.
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Novice Bob

United Kingdom
20 Posts

Posted - 07 Oct 2011 :  12:54:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You may have wasted a day making one, but you could waste up to 16 weeks waiting for Laser to make you one. Engine delivered to day, no-one can supply the bracket so it's off to B & Q. I assume the plate bolts through the transom and some big washers and wing nuts are in order?

Edited by - Novice Bob on 10 Oct 2011 12:15:35
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Novice Bob

United Kingdom
20 Posts

Posted - 14 Nov 2011 :  14:18:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was too cheap to buy marine ply so I'm currently building my first outboard mount with two sheets of 18mm external ply epoxied together and bolted too. Drew round someone's mount in the dinghy park onto a sheet of pine shelving, made a wallpaper template and poked holes where bolts were and then drilled thes into my wooden template.

Will seal whole thing and then apply many coats of yacht varnish, it may well eventually delaminate but since I could only buy a sheet of 8' by 4' I can make dozens of the things.

I will report back on success or otherwise.

Edited by - Novice Bob on 16 Nov 2011 09:37:05
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Novice Bob

United Kingdom
20 Posts

Posted - 16 Nov 2011 :  09:37:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looking good so far, fitting on Saturday.
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Novice Bob

United Kingdom
20 Posts

Posted - 17 Sep 2012 :  11:33:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
An update on my outboard bracket, still looking good and having outboard rescued us from embarassment of drifting into the pier on Sunday last week, well didn't save us from the embarassment, saved us being stuck there all day while a cadet boat faffed about in front of us.
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Bill Gray

United Kingdom
4 Posts

Posted - 24 Apr 2013 :  19:01:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey, Novice Bob - How's the engine bracket doing? I just bought a Stratos without one and tried (what now seems like a well-trodden path) to get one from a supplier, without any luck. I have been given a 6-8 week delivery time - maybe, if I'm lucky. So, I'm about to have a crack at making one myself. I will be using a bracket fitted to another Stratos from the local club as my template. Did you end up gluing or bolting yours on - or maybe both? I'm also guessing that the bracket is bolted single skinned with washers etc on the inside - I need to look at bit more closely at my target template. Like you, I'm not sure if I can still source marine ply (Jewsons used to do it many years ago), but exterior grade ply with numerous layers of varnish will probably manage a few seasons.......Then again, I might just take a screw driver down to the local club......

Edited by - Bill Gray on 24 Apr 2013 19:05:08
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grahn

67 Posts

Posted - 28 Apr 2013 :  18:48:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A piece of 6" wide hardwood screwed together to form a h sits on the transom the long bit of the rear sitting on the bottom lip edge on the boat. The horizontal bit of the h crosses the transom and the short bit drops down the inside. The h is made tight so it grips the transom and glues on. A sort shaft electric outboard grips the top of the h with the h being to the right of the rudder but near the middle. The rudder has to be half lifted or the prop will foul. A mobility scooter batter 24ah sealed sits on the center console under the hoop.
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Bill Gray

United Kingdom
4 Posts

Posted - 09 May 2013 :  23:47:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Like Novice Bob, I have made my own outboard bracket. Made a template from another bracket by tracing around the shape onto paper. Quarter sheet of exterior grade 18mm ply from Jewsons (£11) - and enough to make at least 3 brackets. Marked out shape from template and cut it out with a jigsaw and then used that to mark out another and cut it. Glued and screwed the 2 together with Gorilla glue (£3)) and sanded them smooth. Made the other 2 side/cross brackets also from the ply glued together to make 36mm thickness - the top one is chamfered from 25mm to 15mm across its width, by the way. Then 6 x M6 x 60mm stainless steel bolts, washers and nyloc nuts (£5). I will now give the whole thing several coats of varnish and I have bought an aluminium protection plate on ebay for the bracket face that the outboard screws onto (not provided with the 'official' Laser kit).

Total cost less than £20 - some way from the £165 plus postage I was quoted for the Laser kit...........and if/when I need to replace it, I still have enough raw material left to make another 2! Very therapeutic activity putting it all together too...!

Edited by - Bill Gray on 09 May 2013 23:52:48
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