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Pete1
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 Posted - 01 May 2008 : 20:20:33
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How do you do it?
Attach boom to mast first or attach to sail?
I attach the boom to mast, hoist partially, attach sail to boom then hoist fully. Doing this I can get the top of the sail to about 3 inches short of the top of the mast but no further.
Attaching the boom to mast after hoisting is nigh on impossible.
The only way I've successfully hoisted it those last few inches is to not attach the sail to the boom at the mast end, hoist fully, heave on the cunningham to get the sail where I can insert the pin then release the cunningham.
Is this normal? Has my sail shrunk? I seem to remember getting it all the way up.
Looking at the photo gallery from previous Nationals on here it shows several boats with the sail short of the top of the mast.
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deswift
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Posted - 01 May 2008 : 22:30:51
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Hi Pete
I always leave the boom on the mast.
Don't know whether you find the luff is tight, going up the mast track, as well as shortened, so it doesn't reach the top. i found his and spoke to Hyde who said the luff rope shrinks over time, making the luff of the sail 'bunch up' or crinkle.
I'm only a mile or so from their sail loft on the Hamble, so I dropped it in and they re-luffed the sail with a new, thinner luff-wire (actually a mono-filament nylon) and re-stitched it and now if glides up the track really smoothly, within an inch of the top of the mast.
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Pete1
27 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2008 : 22:36:48
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Interesting. I silicone spray the luff and track so it goes up pretty well.
So do you pin the sail at the gooseneck before or after hoisting it fully?
Our boat is at Netley so getting to the Hyde place should be nice and easy ;-)
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deswift
122 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2008 : 22:43:13
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Yes, the Tack pin is always in place before hoisting, which works fine for me. Since Hyde repaired the sail, I haven't needed to silicone the luff. (assume you don't have the kicker on).
p.s. How old is your sail? DOes it have a luff 'rope' or is it nylon? |
Edited by - deswift on 01 May 2008 22:44:38 |
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Pete1
27 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2008 : 22:49:43
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4 years old and it has a rope. Thanks for the info. Very useful.
Oh yeah... and I don't have any tension on the kicker or outhaul when hoisting.
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Edited by - Pete1 on 01 May 2008 22:51:29 |
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David Duckham
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Aug 2008 : 14:14:54
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I have had the same problem of wanting to fit the boom to the mast at the gooseneck before hoisting the mainsail - because it is very difficult to do it afterwards - but, then, finding I cannot get the mainsail to the top of the mast with the halyard if I have already fitted the gooseneck because I cannot get enough tension on the halyard.
A solution is as follows :
1 Hoist the mainsail to the top of the mast, setting up the halyard as tight as you can and cleating it.
2 Put a piece of rope through one of the reefing holes in the mainsail sail (beside the mast - not at the outlhaul) and fix it there (I have a prepared piece of rope with a short length of wood which fits through the hole and then can be turned across to stop it pulling out). The rope hangs down towards the bottom of the mast and has a loop tied in the bottom end.
3 Attach the kicker block system to the loop in the rope and pull down until the mast end of the boom is at the level of the gooseneck. Then it is quite easy to attach the gooseneck.
Incidentally, I notice that Laser have modified the design on newer boats which gives more clearance at the gooseneck. If you have the older type you could change the fittings. I have not done that but have changed the pin to a drop nose type rather than split ring - which helps. Not quite so secure but, unless the kicker becomes detached, the boom is never going to come off the mast when the boat is being sailed.
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bubble
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Posted - 08 Aug 2008 : 21:47:39
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I keep getting told by other boat 'experts' that my sail is not all the way up. one even took time to show me a trick,
hoist the sail to the top, without the split pin in , then use the Cunningham to pull the sail foot back down enough the put the pin in the foot of the sail.
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Hoisting the main
